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  1. I chat with Marc Jenkins, founder of 16by9, a small web studio that focuses on building WordPress sites. Marc and I talk about what its like to start and build up this type of company, and how, with some careful thinking, you can avoid letting your business become something you never wanted it to be.

  2. I catch up with my frequent co-host, Ed Freyfogle, after a long summer break. Amongst other topics, we discuss how bad customer support will lose you customers. We also talk about yet more payment problems - a common theme on this podcast, and for SaaS businesses in general.

  3. Something a bit different in this episode: we're playing an episode of the new Pushing to Production podcast, where Ed Freyfogle was the guest. It's a conversation about the technical stack Ed's product runs on. Lots of insightful discussion of the tech decisions you need to make in an API-based business.

  4. Simon Bennett, founder of SnapShooter, returns to the show. We chat about a generous acquisition offer Simon recently received for his company - and why he ultimately decided to not to be acquired. We also chat about Simon's new podcast, Ship SaaS Faster.


We’ve been creating helpful podcast episodes for software bootstrappers since 2013.

Some episodes are interviews with experts. Other episodes are open discussions between bootstrappers. There are also, rarely, solo episodes, with one person digging deeply into a topic.

About your host

Hi, I’m Steve McLeod, founder of Feature Upvote and acquirer of Saber Feedback. I’ve been bootstrapping since 2008. Follow me on Twitter.